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  What will happen to the Watchtower Religion now that Trump has Withdrawn from certain aspects of the United Nations.

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so trump has signed an executive order to withdraw from the united nations human rights council, a refugee organization, some others parts as well and calls for a review of american involvement in funding of the united nations.

  he said the united nations has not been living to its potential and they need to get their act together or just dissolve the organization completely.

  he said america will continue to be a part of the un but it's tiring that the united states is the country that funds most of the monies and that can't continue.

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  joey jojo

  Vidiot - I like your idea of a mural.. I think the repressed WT artists enjoy this subject a little too much.

  Heres another one you could consider :) :

  
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  Pinata's vs Birthday's - classic JW hypocrisy

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i vaguely knew that the pinata had some kind of pagan origin and i assumed that having a pinata at a jw party was frowned on by the b0rg.

  however, despite its blatant pagan origins, apparently i was wrong.. the 22 september, 2003 awake states that the aztecs would smash a clay pot full of 'treasures' in honour of the god huitzilopochtli's birthday.

  spanish missionaries simply switched the pot for the pinata during the christian conversion of the aztecs.

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  joey jojo

  blondie
  I commented on this when it first came out. Add to that the change in the understanding of "luau" not being pagan.

  I knew this must have been covered at some point :).

  I sincerely do not understand the double-speak of the org in regards to these issues. They have a real 'thing' with birthdays.

  By the way Blondie, I always enjoyed your autopsy of the WT articles.
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  Pinata's vs Birthday's - classic JW hypocrisy

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i vaguely knew that the pinata had some kind of pagan origin and i assumed that having a pinata at a jw party was frowned on by the b0rg.

  however, despite its blatant pagan origins, apparently i was wrong.. the 22 september, 2003 awake states that the aztecs would smash a clay pot full of 'treasures' in honour of the god huitzilopochtli's birthday.

  spanish missionaries simply switched the pot for the pinata during the christian conversion of the aztecs.

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  joey jojo

  I vaguely knew that the Pinata had some kind of pagan origin and I assumed that having a Pinata at a JW party was frowned on by the b0rg. However, despite its blatant pagan origins, apparently I was wrong.

  The 22 September, 2003 Awake states that the Aztecs would smash a clay pot full of 'treasures' in honour of the god Huitzilopochtli's birthday. Spanish missionaries simply switched the pot for the Pinata during the Christian conversion of the Aztecs. The same article mentions that the Pinata is also tied closely to Christmas celebrations.

  After setting the background, the same article of the Awake says the following: 'While remaining sensitive to the views of others, when considering to use a Pinata at a gathering, the main concern is not what the practice meant hundreds of years ago, but how it is viewed today'. The article in no way condemns the use of a Pinata. Incidently, Huitzilopochtli was the primary god of war.

  When discussing birthdays, jw.org's claims the exact opposite. Their main concern revolves completely around what the practice allegedly meant hundreds, or even thousands of years ago. They claim birthdays are tied to magic and folklore and that the bible only mentions birthdays twice, and, both times, bad things happened. Also, no birthday of a faithful servant of God is recorded, conveniently forgetting about Job celebrating his childrens birthdays.

  There are very few people - in the western world at least, that still associate birthdays with magic, folklore, or what happened to someone thousands of years ago during a birthday. Birthdays are a naturally occuring event - we cant avoid them. I would argue that using a Pinata, which is tied to the birthday of an Aztec god of war - and Christmas in more modern times, should be far more offensive to JW's than birthdays.
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  What will happen to the Watchtower Religion now that Trump has Withdrawn from certain aspects of the United Nations.

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so trump has signed an executive order to withdraw from the united nations human rights council, a refugee organization, some others parts as well and calls for a review of american involvement in funding of the united nations.

  he said the united nations has not been living to its potential and they need to get their act together or just dissolve the organization completely.

  he said america will continue to be a part of the un but it's tiring that the united states is the country that funds most of the monies and that can't continue.

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  joey jojo

  I don't know how they will flip the narrative - but flip it they will. 😀
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  Characteristics of a Cult - Heaven's Gate

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  chacteristics of a cult - by my count, wt ticks 9 of the 12 boxes.

  last night i watched a really interesting video (link below) put out by an ex-mormon site discussing the heaven's gate cult.

  the person interviewed had a unique perspective in that he had firsthand contact with that group, specifically the house they lived in and the aftermath.

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  joey jojo

  Its hilarious that JWs believe they are serious bible students. I actually believed it myself when I was active.

  Number 11 on the list 'lack of critical thinking' says it all. JWs practice conditional learning, not cognitive learning. They are told what to think and feel. They are taught to associate feelings with words and phrases. As we all know, they never carry out critical analysis of any teaching.

  They are no different to the well known experiment when a guy conditioned his dog to start salivating when he heard the sound of a bell.

  And yet, most of them believe themselves to be bible scholars.
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  JW's home schooling over-representing

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  speaking to an old elder friend recently about his decision to home school his high school aged kids.. he claims that here in australia, about 30% of the students that log into online classrooms are jw's.

  the others are disabled kids - who cant physically attend class and the rest are long distance students.. another generation of under-educated jw kids on the way..

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  joey jojo

  
  Big difference in home schooling and online school. Online has a curriculum and real teachers. Some teachers are "woke" though. College credit courses are common.

  You are right. These days online learning is completely valid. My friend referred to his kids education as home-schooling but online learning would be more accurate.

  However, the reason JW parents choose this option is not for the benefit of their kids but is another way to avoid reality.
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  JW's home schooling over-representing

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  speaking to an old elder friend recently about his decision to home school his high school aged kids.. he claims that here in australia, about 30% of the students that log into online classrooms are jw's.

  the others are disabled kids - who cant physically attend class and the rest are long distance students.. another generation of under-educated jw kids on the way..

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  joey jojo

  I do have accolades and relatively well published nowadays, even have my name in documents related to one of the biggest US scientific project of the last and next decade, even made small contributions to the CERN LHC project.

  Now Im intrigued - what area of study?
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  JW's home schooling over-representing

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  speaking to an old elder friend recently about his decision to home school his high school aged kids.. he claims that here in australia, about 30% of the students that log into online classrooms are jw's.

  the others are disabled kids - who cant physically attend class and the rest are long distance students.. another generation of under-educated jw kids on the way..

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  joey jojo

  Home schooling doesn’t necessarily mean they are undereducated. Plenty of people do it.

  True, but I wont hold my breath that any home-schooled JW kid wins a nobel prize. Every JW generation since at least the 60's has been under-educated, home-schooled or not.
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  JW's home schooling over-representing

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  speaking to an old elder friend recently about his decision to home school his high school aged kids.. he claims that here in australia, about 30% of the students that log into online classrooms are jw's.

  the others are disabled kids - who cant physically attend class and the rest are long distance students.. another generation of under-educated jw kids on the way..

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  joey jojo

  Speaking to an old elder friend recently about his decision to home school his high school aged kids.

  He claims that here in Australia, about 30% of the students that log into online classrooms are JW's. The others are disabled kids - who cant physically attend class and the rest are long distance students.

  Another generation of under-educated JW kids on the way.
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  American Primeval and the Mormons

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  just finished season 1 on netflix.. holy crap, i had no idea of the history of the mormons!.

  i always thought they were like the jws, or the quakers, but they were full on fascists committing massacres.. i'm sure they are hating having more people be aware of their past, but i gotta say, it is more event-filled than the jw history..

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  joey jojo

  A lot of crackpot religions thrived in Pennsylvania thanks to William Penn and his tolerance of them.

  Some notable contenders:

  Moravians

  Unitarians

  Christians Scientists

  Seventh Day Adventists

  Amish

  Quakers

  Shakers

  Transcendentalists

  Spiritualists

  Swedenborgian Church

  Mennonites

  Jehovahs Witnesses

  Dukhobors

  Harmonists

  Pennsylvania was a breeding ground for fringe religious ideas. It makes sense that some grew and some didnt. Natural selection at work. JW's claim to be special but they are a by-product of what came before them.